Comments on: The 2009 Wine Bloggers Conference: a foundation for raising the collective spirit http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/ it’s a wine blog. it’s a hiking blog. yes! it’s a winehiking blog. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:27:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Vinopanion | Blog | Pre-WBC09: Twisted Murphys Wine’n! http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68684 Vinopanion | Blog | Pre-WBC09: Twisted Murphys Wine’n! Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:05:09 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68684 [...] of Luscious Lushes, Megan (Twitter) of Wannabe Wino, Russ (Twitter) of California Wine Hikes & Winehiker Witiculture, Sharon (Twitter) of No Reins Girl, David Honig (Twitter, Twitter2) of Palate Press, Amy (Twitter) [...] [...] of Luscious Lushes, Megan (Twitter) of Wannabe Wino, Russ (Twitter) of California Wine Hikes & Winehiker Witiculture, Sharon (Twitter) of No Reins Girl, David Honig (Twitter, Twitter2) of Palate Press, Amy (Twitter) [...]

]]> By: The Necessary Tension between Public Relations and Bloggers: A Second Look at the Conversation » Wine Blogger http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68530 The Necessary Tension between Public Relations and Bloggers: A Second Look at the Conversation » Wine Blogger Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:23:35 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68530 [...] (Winehiker Witiculture) wrote in his post “The 2009 Wine Bloggers Conference: a foundation for raising the [...] [...] (Winehiker Witiculture) wrote in his post “The 2009 Wine Bloggers Conference: a foundation for raising the [...]

]]> By: Wine Biz Radio » Blog Archive » A Being Of Pure Id http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68515 Wine Biz Radio » Blog Archive » A Being Of Pure Id Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:32:05 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68515 [...] Winehiker Witiculture: The 2009 Wine Bloggers Conference: a foundation for raising the collective sp... [...] [...] Winehiker Witiculture: The 2009 Wine Bloggers Conference: a foundation for raising the collective sp… [...]

]]> By: Gabriella Opaz http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68506 Gabriella Opaz Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:54:03 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68506 From a personal standpoint, I find winebloggers to be an extremely social group of folk. They tend to be gregarious, curious, open-minded, gracious and verbose. Where the rub lies is that a conference of this nature is one of the few times that we have a chance to play and interact on a physical level. Over time, this may change as the intrigue wanes towards familiarity, and we're simply left with people who need to network and get business done. Unfortunately, I think much of the non-blogging wine trade is stuck in our initial infatuation period. Give it time. Our impact is growing exponentially, and I suspect that both sides will have a better understanding as to how we can effectively work together. From a personal standpoint, I find winebloggers to be an extremely social group of folk. They tend to be gregarious, curious, open-minded, gracious and verbose. Where the rub lies is that a conference of this nature is one of the few times that we have a chance to play and interact on a physical level. Over time, this may change as the intrigue wanes towards familiarity, and we’re simply left with people who need to network and get business done.

Unfortunately, I think much of the non-blogging wine trade is stuck in our initial infatuation period. Give it time. Our impact is growing exponentially, and I suspect that both sides will have a better understanding as to how we can effectively work together.

]]> By: winehiker http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68504 winehiker Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:03:19 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68504 Wine Club Guy, would you care to expand on your comment? I'm sure many would love to hear what you're thinking, so please share! Wine Club Guy, would you care to expand on your comment? I’m sure many would love to hear what you’re thinking, so please share!

]]> By: winehiker http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68503 winehiker Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:01:17 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68503 Joel and Shana: right on! Couldn't agree more. Thank you both for sharing such great thoughts here. [Editor's note: "Rob" is Rob Bralow, a PR guy in the wine biz and author of the thought-provoking <a href="http://rfbwinepost.blogspot.com/" target=new rel="nofollow">Wine Post blog</a>.] Joel and Shana: right on! Couldn’t agree more. Thank you both for sharing such great thoughts here.

[Editor's note: "Rob" is Rob Bralow, a PR guy in the wine biz and author of the thought-provoking Wine Post blog.]

]]> By: Speed Dating for Wine Bloggers « Drink What YOU Like http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68502 Speed Dating for Wine Bloggers « Drink What YOU Like Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:49:43 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68502 [...] Russ from Winehiker - A Foundation for Raising the Collective Spirit  [...] [...] Russ from Winehiker - A Foundation for Raising the Collective Spirit  [...]

]]> By: Wine Club Guy http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68500 Wine Club Guy Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:43:17 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68500 As someone who is just getting started in the wine blog universe I can say the establishment is sometimes easier and more open then bloggers. It's been interesting to see so far! As someone who is just getting started in the wine blog universe I can say the establishment is sometimes easier and more open then bloggers. It’s been interesting to see so far!

]]> By: Shana Ray http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68499 Shana Ray Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:37:47 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68499 Joel hit the nail on the head with his ending sentence.... I am both a PR person and a wine blogger, as was Rob... We interacted, observed, laughed and drank. Joel hit the nail on the head with his ending sentence…. I am both a PR person and a wine blogger, as was Rob… We interacted, observed, laughed and drank.

]]> By: Joel http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/the-2009-wine-bloggers-conference-a-foundation-for-raising-the-collective-spirit/#comment-68497 Joel Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:01:53 +0000 http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/?p=3351#comment-68497 I'm hearing alot about the fish-bowl feeling and I think that, from an organizer's standpoint, MOST of the industry really doesn't get it. I don't know about disdain or whatever when they talked about why they were there, perhaps because they were being a little defensive because some say that wine bloggers as a little "clique"-y. But really, I know that the trend is clear, journalism is changing, publications are, frankly, screwed. So if blogging is the future - yet to be determined but very important either way - the "observers" should be commended for at least trying to figure out what its all about. Don't blame them for trying, blogging is SOOO foreign to many (even in the Tech industry). And it is making ALOT of noise in the wine industry. So I think their feeling is "we need to figure out what's going on here and fast because it could have serious impact on how we make a living". JMHO on that fish-bowl feeling. Bloggers are important, people want to know why. The WBC is the ONLY place we get together and interact. If I were in charge of marketing for a wine business, I'd be there too. I'd be networking a little more and observing a little less but thats me. I’m hearing alot about the fish-bowl feeling and I think that, from an organizer’s standpoint, MOST of the industry really doesn’t get it. I don’t know about disdain or whatever when they talked about why they were there, perhaps because they were being a little defensive because some say that wine bloggers as a little “clique”-y.

But really, I know that the trend is clear, journalism is changing, publications are, frankly, screwed. So if blogging is the future - yet to be determined but very important either way - the “observers” should be commended for at least trying to figure out what its all about.

Don’t blame them for trying, blogging is SOOO foreign to many (even in the Tech industry). And it is making ALOT of noise in the wine industry. So I think their feeling is “we need to figure out what’s going on here and fast because it could have serious impact on how we make a living”.

JMHO on that fish-bowl feeling. Bloggers are important, people want to know why. The WBC is the ONLY place we get together and interact. If I were in charge of marketing for a wine business, I’d be there too. I’d be networking a little more and observing a little less but thats me.

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